Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bonnie

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This page is an archive of the discussion surrounding the proposed deletion of a page entitled Bonnie, and other pages created by the same user.

The result of the debate was delete the pages.

From VfD

• Bonnie - belongs on the gibberish Wikipedia. Bmills 16:26, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
  • Please do not delete, I have bad English, someone please help translation ~~James, Munich Germany
    • Could you paste the German text on my user page? Sorry if I was too hasty. Bmills 16:36, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
  • Please give this more than 5 minutes! It was originally written in German, they've machine translated it after I'd listed on VfD/foreign language. Yes of course it needs work but the other stuff this IP is submitting on female mathematicians seems fine (but may need fact checking). Machine translation often produces gibberish... Secretlondon 16:32, Dec 10, 2003 (UTC)
  • I have found some English information ~~James
    • I just hope that it is your own material (ie. nobody else owns the copyright on it) --snoyes 16:46, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
      • Nothing came up on google. Please don't bite the newbie. Secretlondon 16:52, Dec 10, 2003 (UTC)
  • Keep. In it's current form, it doesn't look bad. —Frecklefoot 16:51, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately, LBB Is not well known; here in German universities, we try to spread the information about LBB ~~James

• • • This page was already deleted, as was the related Slope field. The only Google hits for the equally related Jayne Bryleigh are [1] wikipedia references to the deletion of a closter of related pages around these subjects. Bmills 16:58, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
  • Keep (although a website link or two, even in German, would be schön). -- Finlay McWalter 17:00, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC). Abstain, in the light of Bmills/Snoyes evidence. -- Finlay McWalter 17:29, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
    • • Bonnie was incorrectly instantly deleted by someone today. I undeleted it. Not all knowledge of the world is on google. I agree that we could do with verifying them but they may well be true. I am not a mathematician. Secretlondon 17:03, Dec 10, 2003 (UTC)
    • A German woman sitting down stairs from me here says that the 'German' text on Bonnie is not actual German. Can anyone else confirm? Bmills 17:06, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
      • Also note the discussion of these spoof articles and the same 'German' text here dating from last May. I suspect a prankster. Bmills 17:12, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
      • I happen to speak German. Which is also why I instantly deleted the text: The words are German (and not anything else), but it is gibberish (at least gramatically). I am also concerned that this might be a copyright violation, as I find the statment that the author "found" something to suggest that he found it somewhere else and then copied it, instead of finding it in his head. --snoyes 17:18, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
  • Delete. The current content is by the same author of Bryleigh's Theorem (see below). --Zundark 17:22, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
  • Nobody worked on complex analysis in the 17th century. Hoax, delete. Onebyone 17:24, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
  • Delete. (retracting my previous abstention in face of evidence). Original poster is from Frederick, MD, perhaps explaining his "archaic" form of German :) -- Finlay McWalter 17:39, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
    • Better still, posting from a Frederick County government machine. :-( Newton & Leibniz didn't invent calculus until the late 17th century; I don't believe this "Bonnie" was publishing papers on differential equations before then. Delete. -- Ortonmc 04:11, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)
  • Delete everything by this user. --snoyes 17:41, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
  • Agree. This user puts suspicious, inaccurate, and frequently just BS stuff everywhere - Marshman 04:32, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)
    • As Secretlondon now agrees that this was a hoax, I think this should be deleted immediately. Bmills 09:56, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I deleted the page as obvious nonsense. I'm not waiting for another 6 days to delete it given the current consensus. To summarize, I give you pakaran:

<pakaran> Newton, who invented differential calculus, was born in 1642
<pakaran> he began work on calculus in 1665
<pakaran> so "bonnie" wrote on one of the more advanced aspects of differential equations a decade before anyone had a concept of differential equations

Daniel Quinlan 19:56, Dec 11, 2003 (UTC)

Related

• Bryleigh's Theorem - This is nonsense. It was deleted before (some months ago), but has reappeared today. --Zundark 17:15, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
  • Belongs to the same cluster as Bonnie, Jayne Bryleigh, etc (see previous item). Delete the lot, an elaborate hoax. Bmills 17:18, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
  • How odd. Delete. Might make a copy at deleted nonsense though, as it fits the bill perfectly. Isomorphic 17:23, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
  • You have my word that this article is correct and not fictional. Please do not jump the gun. ~~James
  • Gun has been jumped by me. -- Cyan 17:28, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
  • Hmm...sounds like another (in)famous German that wanted all knowledge banned except that which he promulgated.
    • Sophisticated argument, anon. First person to claim that it's POV to refuse to tolerate deliberate fabrications wins a cookie. Onebyone 00:11, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)
  • Let me be clear: Bryleigh's Theorem, Jayne Bryleigh, and slope field have all been summarily deleted by me, as they are, in my judgment, obvious fabrications. My opinion is that the anonymous IP who signed as James is having a bit of fun at our expense. Since Bonnie has been tagged by Secretlondon as not a candidate for speedy deletion, I have left it alone. (My judgment is based on my training as an engineer, which gives me some familiarity with mathematics, and my amateur interest in the history of mathematics.) -- Cyan 17:42, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
    • I agree this is a hoax now. Secretlondon 18:38, Dec 10, 2003 (UTC)