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Is the purpose of this article to discuss St. Cloud or merely to describe it in terms of how far it is from the Twin Cities and whether the "media markets" overlap?

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Name

The city clerk's page is at St. Cloud, not Saint Cloud. St. Cloud city clerk page FearÉIREANN 18:50 19 Jul 2003 (UTC)

The City Clerk's page also says "Saint Cloud" at the top. St. is an abbreviation of Saint, yet on official city documents (city ordinances, the mayor's State of the City address, etc.) they use St. Strange! Kedster ^T/_C 14:07, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Swisshelm

Why go on forever about Swisshelm? There is a separate page devoted to her. She is only one person in the history of a community that spans 150 years. This information is overdone. Unless the author can defend this, it will be deleted.

Template for a U.S. City

For those who plan on editing and expanding this article, please follow the Template for a U.S. City. Thanks!--Daveswagon 09:51, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation

It would be useful to note how the name of this city is pronounced. Is it some approximation to the French original [san'klu] or pronounced as though it is the English words "saint" and "cloud" [seɪnt'klaʊd]? --Macrakis 01:42, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm from the area and I've always heard it pronounced the same way as any English speaker would pronounce "saint" and "cloud".--Daveswagon 01:48, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

[san'klu] is occasionally used by people being obtuse. I've heard it maybe 2-3x in my life. -Ravedave 05:11, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Claims to Fame

FYI: St. Cloud was listed as one of the absolutely worst places to live in America. Check out this reference. (reference deleted) 05:46, 30 December 2006 (UTC) NOTE: the reference link has been deleted. It was identified as a "sock puppet": "an online identity used for purposes of deception within an Internet community"

That is absolutely hilarious, but as the article points out, more legitimate studies actually rank the city rather high in several regards. Aside from being boring and aesthetically uninspired, there's a whole lot more that could be wrong with St. Cloud.--Daveswagon 06:45, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The author of the study on worst places never visited St. Cloud. Choose your sources.

Applauds*66.216.231.105 (talk) 20:39, 30 August 2009 (UTC)Fio[reply]

In 2019 the city of Saint Cloud Minnesota was awarded three first places awards from the Rome based Awards for Liveable Communities (LivCom), one of several 'Most_livable_cities' awards. The city won the first-place whole city award for its size and first-place for cities of all sizes for Enhancement of landscapes and public spaces, Arts, culture and heritage management and Community participation and empowerment. The international organization praised the city for its focus on improving parkland and trails, as well as its enhancements and maintenace of 96 parks. The city has been a finalist at the LivCom awards four times since 2007. ^[1]

Also In 2019, dating site Elite Singles ranked Saint Cloud fourth in the country in a list of Top Romantic Cities. ^[2] Each year more than 2,600 babies are delivered at the Family Birthing Center at Saint Cloud Hospital, ^[3]

References

^ "St. Cloud snags 4 awards at international competition for most livable cities" Jenny Berg, St. Cloud Times, 12/13/2019]
^ New Study: Where to Find a Romantic Partner Sophie Watson, 08.12.2019 Elite Singles
^ "St. Cloud doctor delivers 13 babies in 24 hours", Kelly Smith, Star Tribune, 9/20/2013.

Adding information

Don't flame me here, but I think that something about long-standing racial tension in St. Cloud--which is often addressed in the news--should be brought up in this article.Maddiej (talk) 02:13, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I"ve lived in Saint Cloud for years, and I've never once seen more racial tension than I have in any other American city. Yes, the city used to be almost all white. Yes, there are now a large number of nonwhite citizens, including many Somali, Hmong, and Mexican immigrants. Yes, there are racist people here. There are racist people everywhere. But "long standing racial tensions"? Not really. Most of the people in Saint Cloud, including the whites, are not racist. Why does Saint Cloud have a high reported incidence of hate crime? Because unlike other cities, Saint Cloud reports its hate crimes as hate crimes. Yes, there is racism in the city. But not signifigantly more than in other cities, and not enough to warrant putting it down as having a problem with racism. Like it or not, saying anything about racism on the page will immediately cause the city to fall under the broad brush of racist, a title it does not deserve. --EmDoy (talk) 14:26, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Opening sentence in "History" section??

Currently, the opening sentence in the "History" section says: "Minnesota was organized as a territory in 1849. The St. Cloud area had been opened to legal ownership by non-Native Americans following treaty negotiations with the Winnebago tribe in 1851 and 1852." What is the citation for that? The reason I ask is that it wasn't until the Treaty of Fond du Lac in 1847 the area just north of St. Cloud was ceded by the Ojibwe, but it was ceded to the Ho-chunks (Winnebago tribe) and not the non-Natives, and they didn't cede the area until 1865... anyway, the area is north of St. Cloud from Sartell northward and westward, to Long Prairie River. In addition, the area St. Cloud itself is in is Dakota land-cession area, ceded in 1851. CJLippert (talk) 19:32, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Climate

St. Cloud has been hit by at least two major tornadoes. The first was an F4 on April 14, 1886 in Sauk Rapids and the other was an F3 on May 5, 1964 in Melrose.--Kevjgav (talk) 09:53, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mall stabbing

Is the late September 2016 mall stabbing significant enough to be included?Kdammers (talk) 16:56, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in St. Cloud, Minnesota

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of St. Cloud, Minnesota's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "USCensusEst2018":

From Detroit: "Annual Estimates of the Resident Population: April 1, 2010 to July 1, 2018". Retrieved May 24, 2019.
From Bloomington, Minnesota: "Population and Housing Unit Estimates". Retrieved June 9, 2017.
From Wright County, Minnesota: "Population and Housing Unit Estimates". Retrieved April 30, 2019.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 18:19, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ecoregion

User:97.112.35.251 has added that St. Cloud "is located in the North Central Hardwood Forests Ecoregion, characterized by temperate broadleaf and mixed forests". So far, a link to this ecoregion has only been included on geographic articles, and is trivial on a city article. The input of others would be appreciated. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:46, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "St. Cloud snags 4 awards at international competition for most livable cities" Jenny Berg, St. Cloud Times, 12/13/2019]

[2] New Study: Where to Find a Romantic Partner Sophie Watson, 08.12.2019 Elite Singles

[3] "St. Cloud doctor delivers 13 babies in 24 hours", Kelly Smith, Star Tribune, 9/20/2013.

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