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	Comment on my progress: As part of my efforts to become a fully efficient editor that is an asset to this community, I would like to extend the invitation to you, my fellow editor to comment on my progress as an editor at my editor review. Thank you for taking the time to read this message. Regards, MyNam e IsNotBob

Ecce Homo Vandalism

Oh, please. Have you even *read* Ecce Homo? How can you possibly claim that passages like this, are not, at least to some extent, written in an urgent and/or apocalyptic tone:

I know my fate. One day my name will be associated with the memory of something tremendous—a crisis without equal on earth, the most profound collision of conscience, a decision that was conjured up against everything that had been believed, demanded, hallowed so far. I am no man, I am dynamite.— Yet for all that, there is nothing in me of a founder of a religion—religions are affairs of the rabble; I find it necessary to wash my hands after I have come into contact with religious people.— I want no "believers"; I think I am too malicious to believe in myself; I never speak to masses.— I have a terrible fear that one day I will be pronounced holy: you will guess why I publish this book before; it shall prevent people from doing mischief with me.

[...]

I contradict as has never been contradicted before and am nevertheless the opposite of a No-saying spirit. I am a bringer of glad tidings like no one before me; I know tasks of such elevation that any notion of them has been lacking so far; only beginning with me are there hopes again. For all that, I am necessarily also the man of calamity. For when truth enters into a fight with the lies of millennia, we shall have upheavals, a convulsion of earthquakes, a moving of mountains and valleys, the like of which has never been dreamed of. The concept of politics will have merged entirely with a war of spirits; all power structures of the old society will have been exploded—all of them are based on lies: there will be wars the like of which have never yet been seen on earth. It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics.

It's one thing for you to disagree with my interpretation, but quite another to allege vandalism. If you want to mudsling, I suggest you try the sandbox on a rainy day: 70.28.8.116, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Hunter Valley caution needed

It would be wise to check what you are removing. When you deleted the section on schools in the Hunter Valley you also deleted the external links and categories. Cheers -Fermion 09:24, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

why no the?

Why did you revert my edit to the Seventh-day Adventist Church page. The sentence makes no sense. I didn't change the citation tag, check the history. -Fermion 10:18, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, my mistake. See your talk. Have fixed error. MyNam e IsNotBob 13:14, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the compliment...

Your kind words are appreciated, Adrian. As you move forward and customize it, I would be very interested in seeing what you come up with. I would like to eventually change the visual of it to something more in browns, oranges, yellows and reds. If you add new information, I would greatly apreciate borrowing it. Please send me the link to wherever you plan to house it. Best, Kukin i 04:20, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kukini and NotBob, I'm glad to see someone has finally started using the the Get Welcomed template, but what I like even more is your modifications. :) Can you you guys get onto that template and make some permanent changes. Kukini, I like the way your version explains more about getting help. And NotBob, I like you creative design. Maybe we can work together and create some better templates to replace some of the old ones. What do you think? Let me know. Waikiki!!! ^_^ --Electric Eye (talk) 07:26, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ER

I agree that RfA instructions are a bit clearer, but not so much. Many users use that same argument ("all the other pages list downwards"), but if you had read the instructions till the end (the real end), you would have seen it ;). Anyway, just remember to put a future RfA in the top if you want to do it. F e tofs ^Hello! 12:47, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, I've clarified it a bit. Now who does read the enitre instructions set will get the message. I felt that it really needed clarifying. F e tofs ^Hello! 14:28, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanza logo

Just add {{User:Celestianpower/float}} somewhere of your userpage. Regards, --Cel es tianpower ^háblame

Make sure the F in Float is capitalized or else it won't work. ^_^ --Electric Eye (talk) 07:33, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome messages

Interesting. Do you know why? It seems to me that WikiProjects (along with portals) are an ideal starting place for newcomers. By the way, I'm not advocating any specific project; I look at the user's contributions and suggest a project based on them. TheJabberwʘck 22:32, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My welcome template

You mention my welcome template. I'd love to see that completed, just I am having problems with the html. If you or someone you know can have an attempt at it, please do. It can be found at User:MyNameIsNotBob/Welcome/temp. MyNam e IsNotBob 11:49, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just letting you know I have managed to fix and upgrade my welcome template at User:MyNameIsNotBob/Welcome. If you can think of ways to improve it be bold and help us all out. Regards. MyNam e IsNotBob 13:17, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi NotBob. (What do we call you anyway if you're not Bob?) I got your message and looked at your welcome message, it looks great. I considered your request for html help but wasn't sure what I could do. I'm glad you managed to work that out. Looks like you can fit another column in there. Waikiki!!! ^_^ --Electric Eye (talk) 13:21, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just a tip in case you didn't know: You won't have to copy & paste the whole thing every time you welcome a new user. Just put {{subst:User:MyNameIsNotBob/Welcome|--~~~~}} in their talk page and save. You're signature will show up and everything else. --Electric Eye (talk) 13:24, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I just noticed you mention a page they edited, in that case you will have to use it like this: {{subst:User:MyNameIsNotBob/Welcome|ARTICLENAME|--~~~~}} Type the name of the article they edited at ARTICLENAME. --Electric Eye (talk) 13:26, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I did a bit of work on it. Now the MyNameIsNotBob/bigarchive variable will be subst:ed at runtime, and will thus 1) not appear as a variable when the talk page is edited, and 2) not change if the talk page is archived. Also I linked the article name. The new syntax for use is:

{{subst:User:MyNameIsNotBob/Welcome|nocode=subst:|<article>|~~~~}}

TheJabberwʘck 13:43, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nice! What is this monobook.js think I see people talking about? How can I use it? --Electric Eye (talk) 13:30, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Monobook is awesome. Check out WP:WPUS for some scripts and how to use them. Here's your monobook.js link: monobook.js. Mine, if you want an example, is at User:Iamthejabberwock/monobook.js TheJabberwʘck 13:46, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Great! I copied the source of your monobook.js to mine but something doesn't seem right and I don't even know how to use it anyway. I'll have to take a look into WP:WPUS. --Electric Eye (talk) 13:58, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blah!! I'm lost on using Wikitool javascript, but I want to use it! --Electric Eye (talk) 14:05, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How about if you put __TOC__ at the top of their talk page when using the template? Would that fix the TOC problem? --Electric Eye (talk) 13:32, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome Note

Thanks for the Welcome note, Adrian! Glad we have some similar interests in SDA history. Mel 14:30, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hello

hey Bob. :) I Lov E Plankton 15:05, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Table help

Hi MyNameIsNotBob. I've completed your request, though it looks like you've resolved the table issues already. :) Cheers, Sango 123 (e) 20:26, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your welcome template

Your welcome template, [1] has colours on it, particularly the edit links, which do not contrast well with the background they are on. I am colourblind, so I may not be the best person to choose a suitable colour, but I can tell you if it is hard to see. Ans e ll 09:34, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I found a better way to do the subst:thing, thanks to User:GeorgeMoney. Caution: you have to subst: or else it won't work. Enjoy! TheJabberwʘck 03:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on Criticism of the Seventh-day Adventist Church

I think you know more about dispute resolution processes. Could you have a look at the section on plagiarism and see if User:Perspicacious has violated some principle through his repeated POV edits? -Fermion 05:49, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Progress, I think, is being made. However, you making some comments on his page would not go astray. -Fermion 07:46, 3 May 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Biting Newcomers

I will acknowledge that I have become less tolerant of vandalism. I am approaching 3,000 articles on my watchlist, and I take my "job" watching over these pages seriously. For months, I have just reverted changes and left the task of fighting vandalism to others. As I have seen more and more vandalism as my watchlist grew, I realized that I had to take responsibility for warning vandals on articles I have worked on. While you may have caught one of the edits that this new user made that wasn't too offensive, take a look at this other edit, which should offend even the most vandalism-tolerant among us. This seems to be part of a trend where users vandalize a page and then remove the vandalism, often as part of a two-edit sequence, but often a chain of three or more edits. Even if the article remains as it was after the edit sequence, these changes are vandalism, and the edits made by User:Hunthearin clearly fall into that category. Alansohn 12:28, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hunthearin's vandalism

The following edit was vandalism on Hunthearin (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)'s part: [2]. Though he reverted it himself, I felt that he still should be warned.--Conrad Devonshire 14:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3

Administrator Coaching
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Posting logs of the Esperanza IRC channel are explicitly banned anywhere. Violation of this rule results in deletion and a ban from the channel. A disclaimer is going to be added to the Esperanza main page. We are humans and, as such, are imperfect. Various revisions have been made to the Code of Conduct. Please see them, as the proposal is ready to be ratified by the community and enacted. All members will members to have to re-confirm their membership after accepting the Code of Conduct. Referendums are to be held on whether terms of AC members should be lengthened and whether we should abolish votes full stop. Admin Coaching reform is agreed upon.
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Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, Pschemp and Freakofnurture 20:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The KLF

thanks for your useful peer review comments on the article The KLF - its now a featured article candidate. if you would like to participate, please vote support or object with your comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The KLF. cheers! Zzzzz 17:31, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

I saw [[User:Anonymous anonymous/about]] why? ~~~~

Welcome

Thank you for your welcome note--Melburnian 04:13, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ross Rifle bayonet new user comments

Thank you for the comments, I will read my real copy of the Chicago Manual of Style instead of the eBay Manual of Style which seems to be more influential to my new user testing. This is not as easy to use as email, maybe that is good? My favorite webpages though. Gotta return the favor and put an article up some how.--John Zdralek MDT 22:32, 26 May 2006

The Creation SDA Church

The SDA Church sues any renegade SDA group that has influence if they are using the SDA trademark name. The Creation SDA Church was threatened with a lawsuit but the General Conference obviously found out that Walter McGill, a.k.a. "Pastor Chick" is just a fraud with a huge web presence. I've talked with "Pastor Chick" on the phone years ago and know that he represents himself and doesn't own or rent a church building.

I'm not protesting strongly. I don't mind if managing Wikipedia editors are taken as fools. --Perspicacious 23:12, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BE HAPPY

Woldo has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

Mining in Australia is the new ACOTF

Hi. You voted for Mining in Australia for Australian Collaboration of the fortnight. It has been selected, so please help to improve the article in any way you can. Thanks. Scott Davis ^Talk 13:41, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now the focus for references...

Now we should focus on getting lots of references for Seventh-day Adventist Church. It being a "Good Article" and all... Try to find your brothers textbook sometime. Ans e ll 10:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, that was a timely reply, just as I checked over my updates to Criticism of the Seventh-day Adventist Church I got that message. Will try to have a shot at referencing the Seventh-day Adventist Church page sometime soon, I am also of the opinion the page may need restructuring and a bit of expansion, maybe. That is just my gut feeling after having a look at other religious movement pages (the one I just read was Bahai Faith. MyNam e IsNotBob 10:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The entry appeared at the top of my Watchlist as I went to refresh it so I thought I should come and congratulate you and hopefully get (us both) motivated to work on another part of the big picture. :) A proposed structure to change to would be good, but I think that referencing what is there may be more timely than trying to develop an entirely new set of material from scratch and then getting references, or getting them as we go maybe. Ans e ll 10:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The two big problems with the article as I see it at the moment are, one, it is poorly referenced (a fact we can all agree on). The second problem is that it is excessively unbalanced, and it has nothing about the "investigative judgment", one of the main differing beliefs of the Adventist church.

As for referencing, Light Bearers will help with the origins section, but not much else. Seventh-day Adventists Believe is a good reference for the Beliefs section but not comprehensive (an official publication doesn't deal with reactions/attitudes, if you follow my drift), a textbook of some sort may be useful. MyNam e IsNotBob 10:38, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Light bearers actually goes into quite a lot of reasons and a progression through the major defining issues, lets face it, the church hasn't had that many defining issues between 1920 and now (okay, there are a few). I will get back to this with some commentary on the articles talk page later. Thanks for the work you have put into the referencing stuff. Ans e ll 11:20, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please help on William Shakespeare

Thank you for your support of the Article Improvement Drive.
This week William Shakespeare was selected to be improved to featured article status.
Hope you can help…

Posted by Pruneau^T 00:53, 20 June 2006 (UTC) on behalf of the AID maintenance team.[reply]

A short Esperanzial update

As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —Cel es tianpower ^háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Seventh-day Adventist Church

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Thanks, Andy _t 09:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio notice on Real estate broker

Hi. I noticed you placed the {{copyvio}} notice on Real estate broker and the URL it links to isn't known to google. Basically I'm just asking if you can fix the URL (it looks like an old google cache but can't decipher the actual page it points to). Thanks, TheJC ^Talk_{Contributions} 01:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RE: World cup controversies

Hey, Thanks for the note. I did do a load of copy editing and rewriting back at the start of the AFD process (let it be said I didnt just nominate and forget :P) along with Killfest2 who has put alot of good work into the article. I unfortunately am busy now for the next few weeks but I may well come back to the article and take a look at what the rest of you have added (it looks good so far btw). Cheers -- Tmorton166 (Errant Emote)^talk 09:24, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I did a copyedit on it; no doubt it could still benefit from other work. --Guinnog 13:52, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		Your toil and hard work on improving the 2006 FIFA World Cup controversies article is worthy of this barnstar - the ability to put aside your patriotic bias (Go the Socceroos :D) and construct a NPOV recount is a credit to you. Keep it up! --Killfest2 08:07, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Australia

Feel free to help out any way you can. There's a list of to-do items on the talk page for the project, but I'm sure there's more to do. Some Australian editors already use a custom welcome but I forget who unfortunately. Any help would be great. -- Longhair 23:00, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Seventh-day Adventist Article, probable vandlism

Hi, the Seventh-day Adventist references seem to have been corrupted. Would you have the time and expertise to fix them? 80.189.230.237 10:39, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your message. OK, the problem could be software related or maybe I'm missing something. However, when I look at Seventh-day Adventist between the second and fifth reference there is what appears to be a repeated "how to manual". 80.189.230.237 10:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'm sorry to have bothered you, the problem that was probably software related or something, appears to have been fixed. 80.189.230.237 11:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome Notee

Thx 4 the welcome note, sorry about the wait for reply :)Go the Mariners Boltonfan22

company employees editing

G'day Not-Bob - I mean, Adrian,

thanks for your message. As a general rule, we let anybody edit Wikipedia — and there's no reason why a company employee can't contribute good edits to an article about that company. Admittedly, they often find it difficult and tend to bias the article a little if they aren't careful. In this case, I'd suggest you just keep on doing what you've been doing: keep a close eye on the article, in case employees make inappropriate edits, and revert if necessary, but if they make good edits, let 'em stand. Good work. Cheers, fuddlemark (befuddle me!) 12:27, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of article's contents.

Please realize that I didn't delete the contents of the article, the author did. She also deleted after you reverted. --Jmatt1122 23:30, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar!

		The "Rescue from AFD" Award
		I award you this barnstar in recognition of all the work you did to improve the 2006 FIFA World Cup controversies article, which resulted in it's AfD proposal being rejected and the article being kept. Keep up the great work! Killfest2—Daniel.Bryant 01:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Wiki-Birthday!

HAPPY FIRST EDIT DAY!

from the BIRTHDAYCOMMITTEE

Wishing MyNameIsNotBob/bigarchive a very Happy First Edit Day!

Have a fantastic day!

From the Wikipedia Birthday Committee

Enjoy! Thisthema n 00:03, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy First Edit Day!

Happy First Edit Day, MyNameIsNotBob/bigarchive, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day!

Michael 02:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wish you a very happy wiki-birthday! --Bhadani 10:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

HAPPY FIRST EDIT DAY!

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Have a fantastic day!

From the Wikipedia Birthday Committee

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Congrats on your wiki birthday! Mr. Turcotte^talk 19:29, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Grace Bros.

Hi Apparently you created this article... I am confused, is Grace Bros. in line with naming convention? I am considering moving it to Grace Bros. --Ga rr ie 04:59, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Howdy

Hi MyNameIsNotBob, thanks for your welcome! Good to see all the Aussies on here. In response to your invitation to contribute - I'm not really up on Adventist church history, but if I see anything which needs improving I'll have a look at it since I do have some good books. I'm particularly interested in contributing to articles on theology. I'll be starting semester again soon, and I don't expect to be on Wikipedia much until the end of the year. BTW If you have any queries about Avondale feel free to ask or email me from my user page. Cheers, Colin MacLaurin 09:51, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A-League 2006-07 Newsletter I

Introduction

The first ever Wikiproject A-League newsletter is here! The 2006-07 A-League season will bring the usual enjoyment and fanaticism that only football/soccer can create. This new season also means a lot of (currently-open) tasks that require completion throughout the course of the next 21 weeks.

Position Ladder

A Position Ladder will be placed on each team page, which will provide an up-to-date visualization of the current A-League standings. However, problems may occur when Position Ladders aren't updated with the new statistics that don't involve matches of the team whose page the Position Ladder resides on. To remedy this, a base Position Ladder will be created, which will be located at {{2006-07 A-League Position Ladder}} (link). Please update this as soon as possible after the match has ended, as this will keep the Wikipedia community informed.

A few notes regarding the base Position Ladder:-

Please do not substitute the Position Ladder template on the team pages, as it won’t get automatically updated if you do.
Please only update the Position Ladder at the end of a match, and if there is any large dispute about the result, do not add it, but instead wait for an official report by the A-League confirming the result.
When updating, make sure to adjust all of the below fields:-
- The played field – add one (eg. 13→14 etc.)
- Either the win, loss or draw field, depending on the result for that team.
- The points field – either add 3 points (win), 1 point (draw) or leave the same (loss)
- The for and the against section
- Make sure you repeat this process for both teams – not just the team you follow!

Summary Tables
Each team page will have a Summary Table added to it, which will provide an at-a-glance look at the results of the team throughout the season. We ask that, at every chance you get, you fill in the results of these Summary Tables – it only takes a few seconds, but it will help keep the uninformed "in the loop" – it is an encyclopedia we’re writing, after all. As with the Position Ladders, a few notes about the Summary Tables:- Please place the winner in bold text (using '''winning team'''). With the crowd figures, please only place a comma if the attendance is over 10,000 people (eg. use 8648 instead of 8,468 and 11,482 instead of 11482).
Wikiproject A-League Barnstar
Notice someone doing some awesome work on improving an article associated to Wikiproject A-League? Feel free to reward them with this barnstar. Simply copy the following text, replacing the capitals with the appropriate text: [[Image:A-LeagueMedal.png\|frame\|LEFT/CENTER/RIGHT\|MESSAGE. ~~~~]]
Signed:
Yours in football/soccer, AlbinoMonkey ^(Talk) Killfest2—Daniel.Bryant 03:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

hey there not bob

Nice name! Hey, I am trying to put together an artcile on Johnny Lee Clary and have made a draft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Potters_house/Johnny_Lee_Clary I know it needs work, citations, pitcures etc, but I saw that you thought the JLC page should be recreated and if you could give a hand every now and then that would be appreciated. Cheers Nick. Potters house 01:20, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A-League Barnstar Proposal

A barnstar for WikiProject A-League has been proposed here by Daniel.Bryant. Feel free to add your opinions.

Good Article

Finally! After months of hard work and toil, 2006 FIFA World Cup controversies was promoted to Good Article status. On behalf of everyone, I'd like to take the chance to thank you for all your hard work in improving this article. Thank you! Daniel.Bryant 07:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC) [reply]

August Esperanza Newsletter

Program Feature: To-Do List
The Esperanza To-Do List is a place where you may list any request, big or small, for assistance. If you need help with archiving your usertalk, for example, all you need to do is list it here and somebody will help you out. Likewise, if you need help with some area of editing on Wikipedia, list it here! Again, any matter, trivial or not, can be placed on this page. However, all matters listed on this page must not be of an argumentative nature. You do not need to be a member of Esperanza (or this program) to place or fulfill requests on this page. If you don't have any requests, consider coming by and fulfilling a few! This program has not been very active, but has lots of potential!
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The last AC meeting (full log)
In order to make sure all users who join Esperanza are welcomed, a list of volunteers who are willing to welcome new Esperanzians is at Wikipedia:Esperanza/Members#Esperanza_welcomers. Please add yourself if you are interested; we want to make sure all new Esperanza members are welcomed! The In development section of the proposals page has been created. Proposals page: Some proposals have been moved to the aforementioned "In development" section, some have been left as a proposal, and others have been archived. For those proposals that were a good idea but didn't necessarily constitute a program, General Esperanzial Actions has been created. Two small pieces of charter reform will be decided on in a straw poll at Wikipedia talk:Esperanza/Governance. One involves filling the position of any councillors who may leave, the other involves reforming the charter. Until cooperation with the Kindness Campaign is better defined, it remains as a proposed program. There is a page for discussing the front page redesign.
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Natalya, Banes, Celestianpower, EWS23, FireFox, Freakofnurture, and Titoxd 05:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Edits to EG White

Thanks for your welcoming message - but I did not quite understand it. I see that you removed my attempt to place the discussion about criticisms and responses in a less dichotomous context, and your note suggests I more closely observe NPOV, but I would appreciate understanding what aspects of my comment you saw as POV. I gladly submit to the better wisdom of the group on how to communicate this, but I think it is important to include in the article the fact that there is a variety of views of EGW and her visions both within the SDA membership and within the academic community. As currently written the article gives the impressions that all members who value EGW reject all criticisms, which is simply inaccurate.

I apologize if I did not sign my comments on the discussion page for EGW - I thought that I had.

Also, I think you should add the reference to *The White Lie* to the footnotes. Gogh 18:22, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your response. I have not yet mastered the finer points of wiki editing. I noted that I had not properly referenced my contribution in my discussion post and provided the reference information hoping someone else could do it before I figured out how.

I note now that someone has reverted my edit, and the EGW article again has the Rea book coming before the Numbers book. This is clearly an error. Whoever reverted this did not explain the action, so I don't understand why they did it. When I have time I will see if I can fix it, but you might want to look into it.

Admin coaching

Hello! Back in May you signed up for admin coaching. You're now at the top of the request list. Do you still want it? Petros471 22:04, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, admin coaching would still be useful. Thank you for asking. MyNam e IsNotBob 23:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, your coaches are Lar and myself. We usually ask you to set up an admin coaching subpage (e.g. User:MyNameIsNotBob/Admin coaching), where we can talk about what you want out of the program, what areas you need advice in etc. Petros471 08:53, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm happy with the subpage idea. Sounds good. What do you want me to put on there? A starting point would be good. Thanks. MyNam e IsNotBob 09:18, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken the liberty of creating that page (with it's associated talk page), mostly by recycling elements from previous admin coaching sessions I've helped with. See you over there! Petros471 09:43, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

With a bit more recycling, there is some more for you to be taking a look at on your admin coaching page :) Petros471 20:18, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Seventh Day Adventist Template

Hi NotBob, Sorry, but I'm technically hopeless when it comes to things like sophisticated templates! You may want to ask User:Kingboyk (Beatles project) or User:Kirill Lokshin (Military History), they were largely responsible for writing the fancier templates. However, your list looks just fine to me - can you tell me what the problem is? Thanks for using the bot, Walkerma 20:03, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You reverted my edit on the sandbox! :)

Please refrain from removing nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to the sandbox. It isn't considered vandalism. If you don't like to experiment, use some other article. --200.118.163.92 00:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC) :)[reply]

Just a reply

Hi NotBob. I'm just replying to your invitation, which I just found. I haven't looked at my pages for ages. I'm not too familiar with the ins and outs of wikipedia, but if I can be of help, I'd be glad to do so. Stefanbs 03:17, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A-League Newsletter II, 2006

WikiProject A-League Newsletter
Issue II – September 2006

Current Player project status
10% complete

A-League News

The 2006-07 A-League season is now two rounds old, with the early front-runners being Queensland Roar and Melbourne Victory.

Adelaide United won the Pre-Season Cup, defeating Central Coast Mariners 5-4 on penalties.

Project News

The Player project has been moved, overhauled and refined. It now is not limited to the 2005-06 player list. However, only 10% of articles are considered "complete", and hopefully we can get this figure to approach 100% by the end of the season.

Major changes to the layout of the 2006-07 A-League season page have taken place recently, and an infobox created. A table for attendances, as well as top scorer etc. are now in place. All users are encouraged to update the scores for completed matches as they come in.

Recently, Perth Glory F.C. was moved to Perth Glory FC after no objections were raised at the Wikiproject talk page. All links to the old page (including various templates) were changed.

The project requires pictures of games and stadiums to help improve articles. Any pictures are much appreciated.

The A-League Portal has been set up. Feel free to update the scores, and make sure you check out the selected article and picture each fortnight.

The football (soccer) barnstar has recently became the official award of the Wikiproject. Feel free to hand it out to anyone you see making excellent contributions to all things A-League related.

Since the last newsletter was distributed (on August 5, 2006), four new members have graced our ever-growing list: Wantok (talk · contribs), Ronan.evans (talk · contribs), Tiefighter (talk · contribs) and Mattythewhite (talk · contribs). To these new users, welcome from all the Wikiproject members!

Shotcuts

WP:A-L → WikiProject A-League

WP:A-L/T → WikiProject A-League talk

WP:A-L/PP → WikiProject A-League player project

WP:A-L/RC → Changes to A-League articles

P:A-L → A-League Portal

High-importance articles

A-League

A-League 2006-07

A-League team articles

Individual team's 2006-07 articles

High-importance templates

Template:A-League 2006-07 Position Ladder

Signed,

AlbinoMonkey ^(Talk)

Daniel .Bryant

06:58, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

3ABN forum links

I would appreciate it if you could look into the issue on the talk page. IMO the user, at least from their username, has been setup just to link to the commentary on the forum. Thanks, Ansell 07:05, 18 September 2006 (UTC)