Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/September 11, 2001 War Games
This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was ambiguous.
Reviewing the article, I can find nothing redeeming to it. The article lists a series of unrelated coincidences and tries to imply a connection to the Sep 11 attacks. The military runs war games all the time and they run them on more scenarios than you can imagine. There are entire groups whose job security depends on finding new scenarios to plan for. If I'd found this discussion during the voting period, I would probably voted to delete it as contentless. However, the community concensus is not to delete. The decision is to keep.
Having decided to keep, I am not going to call this as a decision necessarily to keep in its current form. Very good arguments were made in favor of merge and/or redirect. That decision should be reached on the articles' Talk pages. Rossami (talk) 02:38, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
A collection of unrelated 9/11 conspiracy theories pretending to be an article - SimonP 02:25, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)
- Merge to Operation Vigilant Guardian. Gazpacho 03:32, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Redirect. The encyclopedic content is already present on Operation Vigilant Guardian. Everything else will have factual/NPOV probs. Keep the article as redirect to prevent its reappearence next month. Feco 04:56, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep The Operation Vigilant Guardian article doesn't contain the NRO exercise [1] (the most important part of the article I think) nor does it contain the other war games. Apart from the lone gunmen part (which I think is just a interesting coincidence, although a scary one) the article doesn't mention any conspiracies or theories. --P8 15:27, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Merge to Operation vigilant guardian. calS !pu kaeps 02:22, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- The "war games" information is the most important piece of the puzzle for understanding how 9/11 was allowed to happen. This entry should be greatly expanded upon, not deleted. See "Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil" by Michael Ruppert for the most comprehensive investigation of the war games. A summary article is http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/011805_simplify_case.shtml - Crossing the Rubicon: Simplifying the case against Dick Cheney, by Michael Kane. Another page summarizing information about the war games is at http://www.oilempire.us/wargames.html
- unsigned comment from anon user:4.243.27.199
- Keep Seems ok to me, doesn't really imply any conspiracy, just points out that several exercise (more than just Global Guardian were taking place). Fawcett5 21:19, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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