Talk:Suffer (album)

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RfC

I'd go with the official website and footnote the date, adding a comment at the bottom of the page that the album cover states the other year. Durova 04:19, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Durova, note both. .:.Jareth.:. ^babelfish 14:34, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Same as the above, go with the official site. Nigelthefish 15:13, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Christgau

Does anyone object to removing the Robert Christgau link? Its obvious by reading his reviews that he doesn't have the slightest idea what he's talking about. Examples: He calls "No Control" "No Conviction", he calls "Ten in Twenty Ten" "One in Twenty Ten" and he gave "Into the Unknown" an "A-" rating. I think I'll try and find a better review to replace it if nobody objects. 70.181.139.64 04:46, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Haven't been able to find a suitable replacement, and since I don't want to just delete it, I'll just leave it there for now 68.8.201.7 01:58, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Correct date

How could you release an album that hadn't been recorded yet? The liner notes on the CD I have says that it was recorded in April 1988 and the disc reads 1988 as the release date. Their official website and page at Epitaph.com are probably just having a hard time getting their facts straight. I settled with this months ago when I was trying to correct the recording and release date. User:Alex 101 then changed those dates back to 1987 before he was banned from edit warring on Angels and Airwaves. He considered my edits vandalism when I was trying to correct the dates. If you buy your own copy of Suffer at any record store, you're in fact going to see that the album reads 1988, not 1987. 67.150.124.29 15:07, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Weasle words?

"Suffer is considered by many to be one of the best punk albums of the 1980s and it was moderately successful." anyone got a citation to verify that? Glassbreaker5791 19:09, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Album Cover

That is most definitely NOT a photograph. Come on. And "(possibly homeless)"? This section should probably be taken out, if there are no objections. McFlynnTHM (talk) 18:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I saw the possibly homeless comment and thought you've got to be kidding. Cdwillis (talk) 18:44, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Best-selling album until The Offspring's Smash?

"After its release, Suffer quickly became Epitaph Records' best seller and was the label's best selling album for a number of years, until the release of The Offspring's 1994 highly acclaimed album Smash."

I think this is not true. Suffer and Smash were released 6 years apart and I'm pretty sure Epitaph had some best selling albums after the release of Suffer. What about No Control and Against the Grain (which were released in 1989 and 1990 respectively)? They were (and probably still are) considered the label's best selling records. Also, this article has no source regarding how Smash became Epitaph's best selling album since Suffer at all, so I suggest this sentence to be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.171.231.16 (talk) 17:53, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]