Talk:Flamen Dialis

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Caesar was surely appointed Pontifex Maximus not Flamen Dialis; the lifetime restrictions on the Dialis would have made his subsequent career impossible. So removed.

Ceasar was appointed Flamen Dialis at an early age and later under Cornelius Sulla was removed from that position on the condition that no other Flamen Dialis be appointed until after his death. Ceasar was VOTED in as Pontifex Maximus, not appointed.

The information I added was from the page http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/secondary/SMIGRA*/Flamen.html, which is stated to be in the public domain. Burschik 10:45, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

In such a case, with wholesale appropriation of unreedited text, an "External link' might be considered a minimal courtesy. --Wetman 16:59, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

If Merula can be co-opted as a Consul while in office are you so sure about Caesar? McCullough manages to postulate a way around the restrictions in her books on the period, and it is also valuable to take into account the high degree of change that the society was being subjected to at that time. Of interest also is the question of the marriage to the Flaminica. why should her death render the Flamen out of his office? Graves in his book 'The White Goddess' postulates that the reason for this is because the office was originally matrilinearlly bestowed by virtue of a propoerly constructed marriage to the heiress that bore the title. If that were the case then one could presume that by historical times, with the advent of patriarchal structures, the form merely remained, with no connection anymore to the original reason.

The link to Merula is not correct as it takes you to Tarquinio Merula, a different person of the 17th century(Though with an intriguingly etruscan sounding name)

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Just wanted to comment that McCullough and Graves are NOT reliable scholarly sources. McCullough attempts to be accurate and often has interpretations of events and motives that are worth thinking about, but she is writing historical fiction, the narrative and psychological coherence of which requires selecting facts when a scholar would have to acknowledge conflicting data. Graves' book has been both justly criticized and unjustly maligned: it contains many mistaken ideas about Celtic myth, for instance, and should not be used as a reference. But Graves states his purpose in his subtitle: "A Historical Grammar of Poetic Myth." This is a work on poetics and myth, how the poet uses myth or the myth uses the poet, not a reference work. It illuminates how Graves and his peers thought about myth, but not to explain myth and religion in the specific historical setting of their originating cultures. Cynwolfe (talk) 15:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Undefined term

What in the world is a papal cardinal? Pope and cardinal are well known, but papal cardinal is a dark mystery. The link points to the article defining cardinal, which does not contain the term papal cardinal, much less define it. Donfbreed (talk) 00:05, 21 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Devious “restrictions” list

I’m highly inclined to slap a [source needed] on every unresourced list item, but I don’t have the wikiskillz to pay the bills and investigate specific page changes.

So, is any of this list credible and citable? UsersLikeYou (talk) 09:46, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Debious UsersLikeYou (talk) 09:47, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]