Talk:Tsar Bell

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Change name

I moved the page for uniformity with Tsar Cannon & Tsar Bomba article names (i.e., without hyphen). Mikkalai 23:33, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

If the bell is the largest bell in the world (it is, right?), shouldn't the article mention this? --Illythr 00:23, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Not exactly so, but you are right about some words to add. `'mikka 00:51, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I propose that the namespace for this article be changed to "Tsar bell". This is English Wikipedia, and very few people will search for this article under it's Russian name. The Tsar bell is well documented in English language sources under its English name. There is no reason to "hide" the article under a foreign-language name. MishaPan (talk) 18:10, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, go ahead, but check what links to it.--GrahamColm ^Talk 18:35, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tsar Bell is a proper noun, so bell should be capitalized. Foobaz·o< 03:44, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sound

If it had been rung, what would this bell be expected to sound like, i.e. what pitch and how loud? Beorhtwulf (talk) 20:57, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Late response, but, lousy. It's broken, so resonance is out the window. It'd be a checked dissonance sound, or dull.Wzrd1 (talk) 04:56, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see that a crack research team has since addressed the question comprehensively. I like to fancifully imagine they were inspired to do so by my enquiry on this talk page. Beorhtwulf (talk) 16:19, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Voltaire joked that the Kremlin's two greatest items were a bell which was never rung and a cannon (the Tsar Pushka) that was never fired." The source for this is pretty weak. Just some sci-fi magazine columnist from 1961 attesting to same, with no direct quotation. I couldn't find with Google any primary source of Voltaire actually writing this. Anonymous coward, 28 March 2018 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.115.189.81 (talk) 01:51, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Weight?

The weight of the bell is not very clear from the text right now. Is "tons" metric ton(ne)s or another type of ton? Does this weight include the large part that broke loose?--Paracel63 (talk) 16:23, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

According to the Rough Guide to Moscow, the fragment weighs 11 tons and the bell 200 tons. As the book says "ton" and not "tonne", I presume it is the ton that is equivalent to 1,016 kg. (See Ton). Graham Colm (talk) 17:17, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Right. Here [1] they talk of 216 tons and the slab as 11.5 tons. So I guess _those_ may be _short tons_ (if those 216 tons are indeed calculated apart from the slab). dewp [2] talks of 201,924 kg and the slab as 11,000 kg. Which may or may not be compatible with those numbers (depending of the slab-inclusive/slab-exclusive weight calculation).--Paracel63 (talk) 12:20, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've found estimates of the weight ranging from 216 tons [3], to 180 tons [4], to "about 202 ton" [5]. In any case, there's absolutely no justification for reporting the weight to 6 significant figures, so I'm fixing that -- RoySmith (talk) 14:57, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]