Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeffery Prather
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This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was delete. Joyous (talk) 01:27, July 25, 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to make of this. It could be a legitimate article, and then it could be nonsense... or vanity and/or spam. I like the opinion of some more experienced and/or knowledgeable users... If I thought I could make a call on this, I would have speedied it. --Chanting Fox 20:46, 4 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I found this article while researching Masaaki Hatsumi's schools outside of Japan after encountering students of Mr. Prather's Yamaneko Dojo in Tucson, Arizona. The text of the article is similar in nature to the school's brochure and in my opinion, was most likely written by one of his schools on his behalf. Although I am not an editor, my expectation of a wikipedia article is to provide only the established facts, most notably career, awards, and affiliations. This article meets that requirement, but also contains information better suited to an external link to his personal or professional webpage. In conclusion, I would recommend keeping the article as it documents Mr. Prather's role as an official shihan. Jjoganic 23:16, 7 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- As a follow-up, I read through the content rules for biographic information, and would suggest the following item as a vote for keeping the entry.
- The professor test -- If the individual is more well known and more published than an average college professor, they can and should be included.
- Within the scope of Japanese martial arts tradition, if Mr. Prather is in fact 15th dan and studied under Hatsumi in Japan, then he is directly relevent. The only evidence that I have for this is the brochure that I received from students of the Yamaneko Dojo this afternoon. A scanned image of the [brochure] and a higher resolution image of what is apparently [Mr. Prather and Mr. Hatsumi] is included and will remain online for at least a week or so. Note: I have no affiliation with the school, students, or individual in question. I was quite literally having lunch with my wife in a park when I asked one of the students about their dojo. From an editorial viewpoint, the text of the article could (and should) be made to read less like a vanity page or advertisement for his school. Moreover, [his website] and the brochure state that Mr. Prather is in fact 13th dan (very high) where the article states 15th. Some further research is necessary in any event. Unfortunately, the most important research would probably need to be conducted in Japanese as the english google has very little to say about "Jeffery Prather" that links him to Hatsumi even indirectly. Credentials aside, it is unlikely that this article is a hoax. All in all, I'm of a mind to edit the article myself, but I have no connection with the information aside from a chance meeting and a mutual interest in martial arts. Jjoganic 01:25, 8 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- On a probably final note, there is apparently some confusion over the spelling of Mr. Prather's first name. Googling for "Jeffrey Prather" returns ten pages of hits. Googling for "Jeffery Prather" returns two. The article should probably be renamed and the incorrect spelling and link from Masaaki Hatsumi changed as well. Jjoganic 01:57, 8 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- As a follow-up, I read through the content rules for biographic information, and would suggest the following item as a vote for keeping the entry.
- Delete: advert. Text of article is copied from a couple of web sites. Wile E. Heresiarch 00:12, 18 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete advertising. JamesBurns 08:21, 18 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as advertising. Xoloz 17:31, 18 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.