Talk:Academic honor code

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BYU

I included the comments on BYU because I thought that it applied to the article, as it is quite different from most of the other Honor codes, and it is fairly well known. -tito2000 9:51, Aug 25, 2006 Should this include specific examples of honor codes, or should this remain an article that only discusses honor codes in broad terms? I write this based on editing conflicts between myself and Meelar. --L33tminion 21:25, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)

Issue resolved. Specific example moved to article for Olin College. --L33tminion 21:39, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)

Limited Entry

This entry seems unnecessarily limted to the idea of academic honor codes -- the idea of an honor code may have much broader implications both interms of the ethical principles and the behaviors that are expected to come from the code. It would be nice to see this discussion expanded.

Zutano99 (talk) 16:59, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Photo really needed?

That newspaper story seems out of place.

Colleges with Honor Codes

List is based on a google search of Wikipedia, and thus may not be complete. --L33tminion 20:36, Oct 27, 2004 (UTC)

Nearly every college in the United States (and elsewhere) has an Honor Code; and definitely every law school does. What's the point in having the list? Peyna 00:39, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. There are, however, a handful of schools where an honor code is essential to the operation of the institution. These schools should be listed.

That is not entirely accurate. Many schools have something they call an honor code, but the academic literature is surprisingly detailed in what they consider to be an actual honor code in the style of old W&M or Haverford. According to academics studying these things, an honor code must have most if not all of the following elements: 1)a written pledge of honesty that the student signs, 2)a student controlled judiciary (not just a dean or a board that has a few students on it) that hears alleged violations, 3) unproctored examinations, and 4) an obligation for all students to help enforce the code. I'll tell you right now that most schools don't do half of these things. Redzuny 21:05, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have direct cites for that? If so, perhaps that should be cited on the page and then examples of a "traditional" honor code (ie W&M, Haverford, Davidson) should be given and examples of a "titular" or "non-student" honor code (ie... I don't know, I guess those other schools) should be given? There are large differences in these codes and those should be mentioned in the article.LKAdriaan 01:02, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Academic Integrity Center does a reasonable job at defining an honor code at http://www.academicintegrity.org/educational_resources/honor_code_101.php, although their definition purposefully paints them as outdated since they have their own agenda they are trying to push. Redzuny 05:36, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removed the list

I went ahead and removed the list, it was getting too large and per my comment above, really pointless. You'd be better off with a list of universities that don't have an honor code. (Since there would be very few of them). Peyna 13:17, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Honor Codes in England ?

Is there anything equivalent to an honor code (or in Commonwealth spelling, "honour code") in British universities ? What about in other non-English-speaking countries ?

Well, not anymore, but traditionally European (both Continental and British) universities had vast independence and considerable power over their students. In some cases, regular civil authorities were even unable to arrest or prosecute university students or academics, because they belonged to the "jurisdiction" of the university. Instead, a bedel (or Pedell in German areas) was a university official tasked to supervise the students, hand out punishments and generally uphold the code of conduct at the university. Offenders could be fined, detained in Karzer (university prison) or expelled from the university. University of Paris already had the office of bedel in the 13th century. Nowadays university bedels perform only ceremonial roles. JJohannes (talk) 21:04, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

W&M

Why does this have the William and Mary box? If anything, the content of the article would seem to indicate that this should NOT be the case . . .

Actually, the very first honor system/honor code (whatever you want to call it) was created at W&M by Thomas Jefferson. It even mentions it in the article. As such, W&M has a claim to be the originator of a now widely used practice of academic honor systems. Therefore, a W&M template is appropriate, especially considering it is a major aspect of the College. -Jrcla2 ^(talk) 18:13, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure I buy this. I know the concept of an honor code originated at W&M but it feels strange to put the box on the article. Honor codes are major factors at many colleges now, and claiming such a broad concept as part of a "school box" seems inappropriate. Should the article on Artificial Intelligence or the BASIC programming language have a Dartmouth College box at the bottom? Both were "invented" at Dartmouth, but a box seems to imply that the "boxed" topic is fully contained within the topic of the box, and it is clearly not the case in this case or in the two examples I gave. But maybe I'm misunderstanding "boxness" :) -dgp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.170.212.237 (talk) 06:38, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would entirely agree that the W&M school box has no place in this article. The article does not belong to W&M exclusively (like the Omohundro Institute does) and therefore should not be cited in the references like it is. The normal wiki markup in the Academic honor codes section should provide sufficent reference for the school. Bgautrea (talk) 21:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Code of honor

I simply cannot believe this doesn't fall under a Code of Honor WikiProject... It could included Bushido, chivalry, dueling... TREKphiler 15:02, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Texas Law

Can anyone explain the reference to Texas law being unique as it regards U. Texas's reporting of violations? I don't get it. Is there a LAW that requires the school to broadcast violations to other states where students will be taking the bar exam? Or is this a suggestion that only Texas cares to receive such comments from its law schools? In South Carolina, our supreme court requires all law schools for bar applicants to submit forms detailing any brushes with any sort of honor code. It is not required by STATUTE, but the court requires it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ProfReader (talk • contribs) 03:25, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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UVA is no longer single sanction

https://news.virginia.edu/content/honor-vote-restores-expulsion-option-new-multi-sanction-system 199.111.227.48 (talk) 18:11, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]