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listen okay b4 you mark me as a graffiti person I just wanna speak to you. k?

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- Mailer Diablo 20:24, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Re: New user asking for help

Hi Noah,

Problem fixed. :) Also, you would also be pleased to know that you can change the page to an earlier version yourself - through reversion. (except deletions)

If you have any more questions, feel free to contact me again. ;)

- Best regards, Mailer Diablo 20:24, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You may have a problem with your browser

Your edit to Blind musicians [1] replaced Cyrillic text with question marks. You may not have intended to do that. What browser are you using? Susvolans (pigs can fly) 1 July 2005 11:54 (UTC)

Especially, please make sure that your browser's character encoding is set to "Unicode" or "UTF-8" or "Automatic" or "Default" or something like that. (I suspect you are forcing your browser into some other format, which presumably works really fine for you otherwise. Not here, though.) If you use an external editor, you need to do the same there. Hope this helps! Arbor 4 July 2005 10:03 (UTC)

Tomato

Hi Noah - you might want to check over tomato and talk:tomato, I've added and changed a few bits; I agree with most of your additions, my changes to them are mostly minor copyediting (stripping out superfluous carriage returns and spaces!), but I've added details of the nightshade relationship at the talk page, which I think should go back in on the main page (I've not reinstated them there yet) - MPF 5 July 2005 20:12 (UTC)

On Malcolm and Lincoln

You're dead wrong about Haj Malik El Shabaaz. Calling Malcolm X a black supremacist would be an error, period. At no point in his life was he ever one. And there is nothing the man ever said or did that would lead any rational individual to believe such a thing. There is absolutely no comparison between Malcolm and Lincoln. (Damn. White people!) The same, of course, cannot be said of Lincoln, and there is no evidence he ever changed fundamentally in that regard. I don't feel there is any need whatsoever to qualify the categorization of Lincoln as a white supremacist; he clearly was one -- and, as far as the historic record indicates, remained so until his death. deeceevoice 8 July 2005 08:30 (UTC)

Then, perhaps you should read Malcolm's autobiography again, because -- again -- there is nothing he ever said that reasonably could be construed as supremacist. Your remarks represent a complete misreading of the man's life and work. Lincoln, on the other hand, is a different story. The change in his position on the role of black troops did in no way indicate that Lincoln ever changed his basic assumptions about blacks -- that we were inherently inferior and, as a result, deserved to occupy an inferior station relative to whites. He never even hinted at such. Giving black troops their due in light of their record of exemplary military service was a no-brainer. Besides, why not use blacks as cannon fodder? According to the historical record, Lincoln was and remained, in no uncertain terms, a white supremacist. To suggest otherwise is pure wishful thinking/speculation. User:deeceevoice 8 July 2005 18:24 (UTC)

List of White supremacists

Hello Noah. Since you're the one stated in White supremacy that a list of "famous white supremacists would be too long to be in the article, I thought maybe you'd be interested in this new article I started which is called List of White supremacists. Maybe you can add a few more names to that new article. Regards, --Gramaic | Talk 04:53, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Re : Nadir of race relations in the United States

Hi Noah,

I suppose you meant Nadir of race relations in the United States? Sorry, but there was no deletion record that I could find on this article. It appears that no such article was created in the first place. You can try and create the article, if it gets deleted (again or otherwise) let me know.

- Best regards, Mailer Diablo 18:55, 14 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/List_of_White_supremacists

Hi. Your VfD was linking to a non-existent article at List of White Supremacists. I changed it to List of White supremacists. --malathion ^talk 19:17, 15 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I fixed the template link on the article itself. --malathion ^talk 19:39, 15 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I'll go vote Delete, since people seem to want to keep the article. Thanks for putting up on VfD. Phoenix2 22:17, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
Much appreciated for bringing the vote to my attention and for putting it up. It's a pointless article and basically one of the best examples of reverse-racism I've seen on Wiki. Jachin 13:33, 16 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, Noah. Thanks for the note. I did my duty. Peace 2 u. deeceevoice 02:36, 23 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Re : delete a page

Hi NoahB,

Your request for the image deletion has been completed. If you have any further questions or problems, feel free to drop a note on my talkpage.

- Best regards, Mailer Diablo 19:26, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Racist pudding

Can you explain to me how it is that Norman Lindsay is a racist, or even right-wing? As you asserted in The Magic Pudding. That one character in the novel uses "unmitigated jew" as an insult does not mean that the author himself is racist. Grumpyyoungman01 13:22, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Um forget that comment, I must be tired or something. The comments should be aimed at an ip address. But if you can somehow un POV that comment and retain useful information it would be good, now that I have defamed you. Grumpyyoungman01 13:33, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Éponyme

You say you fail to understand his remark at "Nadir..."? Take a look at his (or I suppose just possibly her) User:Éponyme user page. Apparently, according to him, African Americans are "former slave subjects of the American people", not part of the American people themselves. And apparently Baptists—and clearly, in context, that means White Baptists—constitute the majority of the people he counts as American. Given that, I would say that I understand him all too well. - Jmabel | Talk 00:40, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

discredited

you need to provide proof that ALL historians have discredited the dunning school. you'll never do that, because i am one that supports their theses. this is why challenged is the best word. WillC 21:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bias

you are your buddies are simply finding ultaliberal historians that agree with your point of view; this is why wikipedia is bogus as a respectable reference site; you'll just rally your troops and find any quote that supports you, regardless of the fact you know discredited is pov and challenged is accurate. go ahead and say certain historians condemned the dunning school. others have not. WillC 12:55, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re : user spamming

You can just simply create the user talkpage. Just load the empty form, and edit as per you do normally. :) - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 11:27, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cheetah photo credit

Hello. I'm quite pleased that you're using my photo (I assume you mean Acinonyx jubatus walking edit.jpg?). As it turns out, I made a slight error in the "author" information field. That photo is an edit of Acinonyx jubatus walking Flickr.jpg, which isn't my photo. I'm not entirely sure what the credits would be, but I would probably credit the Flickr user who is the photographer as well as the editor (in this case myself). Crediting me simply as Pharaoh Hound is fine. Regards, --Pharaoh Hound (talk) (The Game) 17:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Geococcyx californianus.jpg

Hey. Yes you may use Image:Geococcyx californianus.jpg in your book, but its use does require attribution, per the GFDL. My full name is "Derek J. Evatt" and.. there's room on the tagline, xvisionx.com is my website (although its down at this very moment). If you want information on the image, it's of course on the image description page including date taken.. where it is, etc. -- drumguy8800 C T 19:08, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jenna Jameson

Thanks for adding that cancer bit; I cited it, and moved to a place I thought would fit better -- in fact it fills an important gap between her trying to get pregnant and trying to get a divorce. I notice in your edit comment that you don't like the article organization -- any specific suggestions on how we could improve it? --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 13:31, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Anon. If it were me, I'd try to organize it in straight chronology, rather than trying to segment off her relationships and business interests -- especially since the two are heavily intertwined with her marriage to Grdina. But I don't have time to do it myself, so I can't really complain I guess. NoahB 13:33, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I organized it on the model of the other Wikipedia:Featured Articles about living actresses, like Angelina Jolie, Diane Keaton, etc., that do split off the relationships sections. But I can see the point that it would be easier to update with new events if it were strictly chronological. Thanks again for helping. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 13:40, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Band

The article in its deleted version did not assert the notability of this person. I can believe that "he's worked on major films, and several albums of his music are available on Amazon", but the important thing is the article must state so. When I deleted it, it did not. Resurgent insurgent 12:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kelly Rowland pic

Suriya Kongsomsuksiri is my name ....and Thanks for credit :) --Sry85 13:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jazz talk

Just been appreciating your style on the jazz talk page way back when. Thought I'd drop you a note to say so. 86.42.124.92 06:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sexual Politics

Thanks for pointing that out. I hope I've made it clearer now.--Cúchullain ^t/c 19:38, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Appearance of the word "Racism"

Hi Noah, You mentioned on the talk page on the anti-racism entry that the word "racism" didn't appear in dictionaries until after WWII. Do you know who coined the term to begin with? Also for "racialist"?

Thanks!

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The problem with that edit is that it used inline external links rather than references. They're also a primary source. If you'd like to learn how to incorporate that material correctly, please don't hesitate to ask. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:42, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So there are two potential problems now. That external link is an article and not one written by the subject, which I incorrectly assumed, but is instead written by Noah Berlatsky, and that appears to be you, it's still self-promotional, but the promoter is you. You've already been asked to avoid editing without explaining conflicts of interest, so I will not repeat that. I will indicate that you have no earthly clue how to link to an actual reference. While that was the primary problem, this problem is larger. Either way, the source fails WP:RS. Feel free to restore it, however, if you decide to and you have not declared CoI, I'll mention it at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. I merely suspect a strong CoI, but they deal with this more frequently and should be able to address the appropriately. If you do declare a CoI, I will take the source to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard to discuss whether the interview can be used in Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. Again, I dabble in that notice board, but I don't know all the details.

Also, as it states in the edit notice on my talk page, please respond to comments left on your talk page here. It keeps the discussion all in one place. Cheers. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:33, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Insulting me isn't helpful. If there are problems with the link, you can fix them. Mocking users with less knowledge is not a good way to operate on Wikipedia.

There's no conflict of interest in using information from an article I wrote? How on earth does it benefit me? I just want there to be accurate information; topic experts aren't prevented from using their expertise.

You're interactions with me are needlessly aggressive and insulting. Why you don't want people to have accurate information about this topic I am not sure; do you actually think the information is wrong? You don't right? It's a BLP; it's important to have correct info. At the moment, the info is not as accurate as it could be. I attempted to update that, and you've taken to edit warring on technical nonsense to prevent me from doing so. I think we need an arbitrator. I'll see about asking one for help NoahB (talk) Also, we should move this convo to the article's talk page; putting it over here isn't very helpful; I will start a discussion there. NoahB (talk) 19:23, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Tarantino movie

Some editors who have come to edit the page claim they have seen the movie. It was made public at Cannes in a high profile screening. Are you basing your opinion on your personal experience of the movie or hearsay? I can understand your position if you saw the movie, and will just have to trust you. Otherwise it will most likely be reverted by those claiming to have seen it. The consensus on the plot summary as it was written is pretty strongly skewed in the direction of keeping it. Did you see this movie? If not, then how would you know it is not accurate?73.95.133.103 (talk) 04:21, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I just saw it. I'm a reviewer and saw a press screening. Anyone saying the final graph I removed is what happened is fucking with you. This is why Wikipedia shouldn't be including plot summaries when you can't verify them with secondary sources. NoahB (talk) 05:17, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe so. There is a lot wikipedia shouldn't do with these articles, as often a lot of fake news, corporate spin, bias against critics, and misinformation winds up in them. I'm afraid these things become subject to internet mob rule and the lowest common denominator that is fan worship. But I have to say... with language like that, f-this and f-that, it doesn't help your credibility. Not very professional and I expect an authentic movie critic not to speak this way. Also, if you honestly saw it, then why not correct the information given the journalistic mission of wikipedia in the first place? Journalistic integrity should come before corporate gimmicks, like trying to inflate the importance of film. Sharon Tate surviving the Manson Murders and brutally killing her captors, which I know for a fact IS part of this ending, isn't as clever as it seems and the movie collapses into a misjudged splatter cartoon. I'm guessing Tarantino is sweating over the very real possibility that his movie won't open very well given its esoteric narrative and thematic incoherence. Aiming for a kind of high art "From Dusk Till Dawn" where one movie suddenly becomes another on the turn of a dime feels lazy, like Tarantino is hoping that his revisionist history sleight of hand that worked so well in "Inglorious Basterds" will save this movie. With the loss of Weinstein's discipline and then long time editor Sally Menke, a talented woman who I suspect is the secret talent and steady hand that guided Tarantino over the years, I think Tarantino is lost and this artistic choice reeks of desperation. My point with all of this: I don't think spoiling this movie is such a big deal when it is no masterpiece to begin with. Yes, we shouldn't mislead audiences and for that reason, that also includes helping Sony spin this movie with cheap gimmicks like withholding information about the ending in hopes opening weekend will be larger for that curiosity. Not to mention, I personally find it disrespectful that they would dishonor the dead like that, since the tragedy of the Manson movies isn't appropriate for this kind of revisionist storytelling anymore than the Holocaust is or the Columbine massacre IMHO. In any case, according to WP:SPOILER, spoiling a movie's ending is not of concern to us. The only reason, in this case, to withhold the information from the public is because of Tarantino's odd request that we "not spoil his film." Wikipedia doesn't censor information. We shouldn't put our personal agenda, no matter how well intended, in front of our journalistic integrity to inform our readers. Please correct the information, otherwise, it will most likely be reverted for the reasons I noted. Wikipedia's job isn't to give free PR for Sony, and the gimmick of not spoiling this ending is to encourage movie goers into seeing this movie on opening weekend. If audiences don't want to spoil the film for themselves, they simply don't have to read it. Thank you for hearing my feedback.73.95.135.110 (talk) 07:15, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, real movie critics never say fuck. this is a true thing.

I didn't add info because it can't be checked, a, and b, there are embargos which I don't want to violate for Wikipedia. I don't give a crap about spoilers otherwise; if the ending was correct I would have left it. It isn't; you're spreading misinformation. If you don't care about that, I can't help you. Don't post here again.NoahB (talk) 18:56, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Elizabeth Bowen (Actress) (February 22)

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Needs substantially more material from multiple reliable sources.

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Tobin Siebers

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