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Head of Kagyu?

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Can someone knowledgeable clarify the relationship between the Karmapas, the Karma Kagyu lineage, and the Kagyu school as a whole? The Karmapas are sometimes described as the head of the Kagyu school, but I sometimes get the impression that, while they are the most recognizable Kagyu lamas, they are really only the boss of their own Karma Kagyu subset. - Nat Krause 16:05, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)


Necessity for carefully footnoting added material

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This article has apparently so far been taken with permission from Ken Holmes' book Karmapa which is on a web site. It is most important, therefore, that any added material or changes are carefully referenced so that there can be no mistaking what came from Ken Holmes' book and what is new material. I will do this with some additions I will make - but just thought I should make this request now in case others wish to make changes or additions. Cheers, John Hill 07:24, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Austerlitz -- 88.75.94.28 (talk) 12:40, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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